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Prejudice without malice

Saturday night after an afternoon of drinking and chatting with friends, we were joined by the husband of one of the ladies and his friend. We were talking about work when it came out that said husband didn't like "back-office employees." Being a technically back-office employee myself, I wasn't real happy to hear this and asked for clarification. Turned out that he didn't like admins, mostly because the ones he'd met were set in their ways and not open to change. I might have been willing to let this one go as him being an ass, up until he said that the admins loved his friend because the guy wears a suit.

At that point, I went into poke the bear mode. There was just no way that I could let such an asinine assertion pass. So I pressed for clarification and he trotted out a study from the 70's about how "senior secretaries" responded to orders given by "junior salesmen" in suits but not those dressed more casually. He immediately dismissed all objections that gender politics could have played a factor, despite the fact that it was the 70's. Hell, gender politics *still* play a factor in the work environment. I'm in a technical class at this exact moment where I'm the only woman. Hellooooo. Anyway. Working within the framework of his idiotic prejudices, I was still able to refute his assertion (what with secretaries knowing where their bread is buttered and all).

But for me, the most significant part of this was how he'd just thrown out the gender issue, despite the timeframe. This is a man who's married to a strong, feminist woman. She was the one who'd brought up the argument, and he dismissed it out of hand. I can't help but feel that this is demonstrative of the fact that there's still a lot to do to get true gender equality. Convincing people that there's still a problem is going to be the first part of the battle.
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Now see...I think I know all the ladies that were there...and so I think I know which husband you speak of. I'm frankly shocked...and can only defend him with a lame "Well, he was brainwashed in the military...and that will mess up your gender political views for life." But maybe that's not the guy. And if it's not...I have NOTHING to say because my head just exploded.
Seriously...if you don't like Admins b/c they don't listen to you...take step back and figure out what the actual problem is with your communication style or the specific person/people you are dealing with. Blanket statements and hiding behind 40 year old surveys...that's lame ass shit!

Yeah, it was surprising. But you'd think that marrying a feminist would have some impact. I blame his new sales job and the atmosphere of "I sell, therefore I count for more." But still. Going to have to watch him in the future. For educational purposes.

now see...but here's the thing...she's still got the baggage of her upbringing...and having some serious knowledge of the geographic location of her family...it's hard to shake some things...really hard.

I'll probably see you this weekend for scrapbooking...more on the topic then! Sorry to say that I'm a bit miffed...but then again, I personally married a man who is WAY, WAY, WAY more of a feminist than I am. So, I get good lessons on what not to think from time to time.

Yeah, I spent about 3 days being really irritated. And now I feel like I need to do some teaching. In my own generation! Yeesh!

I've never actually heard the term "back-office employees" before.

I've only ever heard it in the context of sales folk who want to malign support staff.

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